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Obama Currently Flunking the Koch Test

Hizzoner calls on Democrats to vote GOP in Weiner’s district

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Ed Koch in May.(JP Yim/Getty Images)

More evidence that President Obama is failing the Koch Test—which is to say, failing to receive the approval of former Democratic New York City mayor Ed Koch, without which, as Tevi Troy showed, it is difficult for Democratic presidential candidates to win elections: Koch called on Democratic voters in Rep. Anthony Weiner’s former district to vote for the Republican in the upcoming special election in protest of Obama’s (alleged) policies on Israel. “If Jewish New Yorkers and others who support Israel were to turn away from the Democratic Party in that congressional election and elect the Republican candidate to Congress in 2011,” Koch argued, “it might very well cause President Obama to change his hostile position on the state of Israel and to re-establish the special relationship presidents before him had supported.”

Semi-relatedly, Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen’s op-ed today, taking stock of the fall of Weiner—which, Cohen reminds us, was brought on by a decidedly non-criminal scandal and instigated by people who were not his constituents—is worth your time.

Mayor Koch: Vote Against Obama in Weiner Race [NY Post/Vos Iz Neias?]
Anthony Weiner, Victim of a Digital Mob [WP]
Related: Koch Test [Tablet Magazine]

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Hershel (Heshy) Ginsburg says:

“protest of Obama’s (alleged) policies on Israel..”

Obama does not have “alleged” policies on Israel… he has policies on Israel (one would think that there is “policy” as opposed to random acts). Koch obviously thinks those policies are bad for Israel (as do, I might add, a plurality if not an outright majority of Israelis). That is his privilege to think so.

You obviously disagree with Koch’s assessment and probably feel that Obama should apply even more pressure on Israel to cave in to His will even if a majority of Israelis feel that those policies are inimical to the country’s best interest (but hey, what do those Israelis know about what is good for them). That is your privilege to think so, as misguided as it may be.

In short, the word “alleged” is meaningless in this context and should not be used. Unless, of course one believes that advocating a position that doesn’t pass muster with MT’s and His O-ness’ divine guidance clearly cannot really exist and therefore is “alleged”.

Think before you type.


Jerusalem / Efrata

Hershel (Heshy) Ginsburg says:

Koch does seem to know of what he speaketh. In contrast to MT’s insinuations, a new poll (bipartisan) of American Jews shows great concern about Obama’s policies (alleged) and attitude toward Israel.

For a summary and commentary see here:

To see the actual poll results see here:

I does seem that Koch is spot on with the broad range of the American Jewish community, in contrast to the True Believers.


Hershel (Heshy) Ginsburg says:

It does seem strange that my comments (at least the second one I tried to post) do get snagged for moderation at an inordinate frequency. Methinks someone should see a dermatologist to get his thin skin checked out.


Dan Klein says:

HG, the moderation is generally done automatically–and they tend to flag posts with multiple external links as spam.

Maayan says:

wait, what hostile position? Every time I see Obama talking about Israel he’s basically doing backflips to reassure everyone that nothing could ever change the US’s special relationship with it/number one ally/etc etc.
When was the last time Israel bowed to American pressure on anything? Yeah, I couldn’t thing of one either. Far from being too hard on Israel, it is questionable whether the US even has enough power to actually be an influence for good or for ill.
some people are just freaking paranoid.

apikoyros says:

Israel is not merely a concept in the minds of the American Jewish pundits on Tablet (or State Department paper pushers). It actually exists in a terrifying reality that is today’s world, in which Iran literally threatens its annihilation while the world scoffs and dithers. Hostile armies and weapons are in place on all of Israel’s borders.

Obama’s contribution to “peace in our time” in the Middle East is an inordinate emphasis on “freezing” Israeli settlements and Israel’s effective retreat to its pre-1967 borders (with the appropriate “nods” to a few minor adjustments) while ignoring the need for any real cessation of hostilities from Israel’s “partners.”

A commenter above asked “When was the last time Israel bowed to American pressure on anything? Yeah, I couldn’t thing of one either.”
How about that “freeze” on the construction of housing in the “settlements” (i.e., places where Jews live in Judea and Samaria)?

Israel agreed to that, certainly not to its own benefit, at the US’s request. Biden even got upset because of an imagined insult in the timing of construction plans in Jerusalem. Did any meaningful peace talks with Israel’s “partners” result from this “freeze,” which seems to have been the most important object of Obama’s obsession regarding Israel?

Considering this policy and history, why should Israel concede anything further to help Obama’s efforts? Why do American Jews deceive themselves about Obama’s supposedly “benign” policies toward Israel?

Jonathan says:

Israel decided not to destroy Iran’s nuclear capability at the request of the US. You can’t bow much lower than that….

Marc Tracy says:

@Hershel (Heshy) Ginsburg your comments get snagged for moderation disproportionately because they disproportionately include more than one link.

as for my “(alleged)” that is in reference to the frequent misstatement that Obama advocated Israel to return to the 1967 lines, period.

Harrietb98 says:

I think that Ed Koch is becoming senile. There is no pleasing this man. He says that he is glad that a Republican took Ted Kennedy’s seat, in Massachusetts, which he said made Obama a better president because he “moved to the middle”.

But, he complains against Obama because Obama is ready to put Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid on the table. This man just doesn’t make sense anymore.

How he can support David Weprin’s opponent completely baffles me.

sharon says:

Yeah, just what we need in the house-one more rabid republican. Ed needs some medication.

neal sturman says:

yeah, sharon. A retired cable exec. what a rabid republican.

The faggott Ed Koch will never be satisified until Israel controls the US Treasury.


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