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Protest Versus Violence

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This week’s winner is frequent commenter “fw,” who writes, in response to Facebook’s explanation that it removed a page calling for the “Third Palestinian Intifada” because comments had devolved into direct incitements to violence: “The difference between calls for violence and calls for protest is all the difference in the world. It’s the difference between suicide bombers and peaceful protesters in Tahrir Square, between the dignity of the Egyptians and the depravity of Hamas.”

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Jed Brandt says:

The amount of incitement from Israeli apologists is beyond compare. The terror bombing of Gazan refugee camps, killing the children of people ethnically cleansed from ’48 to “defend a Jewish state” is kind of what’s going on.

That those who believe the land from the river to the sea belongs to those who live there have the right to rebel, to oppose an endless occupation justified on shamelessly racist grounds is just common sense.

If you opposed the system of white supremacy in South Africa, if you believe Jews have the right to live as citizens in the United States or anywhere on earth — how can the endless apology for the race-state of Israel be allowed to stand?

Either we believe in human rights or we don’t. And if secular democracy is something to fight for here in the USA — why on earth should it be tolerated in the name of the world’s Jews when it comes to the utterly typical settler-colonial crimes of Israel?

Hypocrisy isn’t impressing anyone outside the bubble. Just a reminder.

Beatrix says:

As a matter of fact, the land the Palestinians live on belonged to Jordan and Egypt.

The land the Israelis live on was established by the UN, as was the original land belonging to the Palestinians, but instead of building a nation as Israel did, Palestine attacked Israel and lost. Then they attacked Jordan, and lost, and now they live on land granted to them by Jordan in order to get rid of them.

The Palestinians are being occupied because they lost a war and the only way to freedom is a peace agreement with Israel. But they have no interest in that because they’re winning the propaganda war with idiots like you. They had no idea when they started their propaganda attack how prevalent antisemitism was in the West.

If Abbas negotiates peace, he may be assassinated when his people learn how much he has to relinquish (like the “right of return”), but if he races around to the UN screaming about building in settlements (that’s been going on for 43 years) he wins the world’s support. It would take a lot more sophisticated leader than Obama to stop him.

brynababy says:

This is your beloved, oppressed Palestinian behavior.
Hamas used force to disperse a reconciliation rally in Gaza. Some reporters were later beaten up, threatened and briefly detained.

On Saturday, Hamas used force to break up a small rally, witnesses said and later beat up reporters from major international news outlets.

An Associated Press Television News cameraman was nearby when he was cornered by Hamas police and beaten with sticks. He was briefly detained and released unharmed. Other cameramen also were beaten and some had their equipment confiscated by Hamas.

Hamas also raided the offices of the Reuters news agency, CNN and Japanese channel NHK in Gaza. A Reuters producer was arrested by Hamas and witnesses later saw him leave hospital with a bandage wrapped around his hand.

Reuters Bureau Chief Crispian Balmer said “A group of armed men entered our office in Gaza and threatened our employees and confiscated a video camera after we were spotted filming a demonstration from the building. They smashed a TV in the office, they clubbed one of our guys on the arm with a metal club and they threatened to throw another one of our employees out of the window.”

Jed Brandt says:

The age of colonialism is over. Using broad-based racial arguments about “the arabs” is about as class as some guy ranting about “the Jews”. Sorry, but that stuff doesn’t travel well outside of Israel — though we all know where the Zionist electorate is heading… thankfully, it’s not where the rest of the world is going.

Jews have every right to live in that land, as do the people who are, gee, from there. If the French could end their settlements in Algeria, the Boers lost their “Afrikaaner Homeland” and the USA has legally desegregated — unless you think Jews are incapable of living as free people amid other free people, there is no excuse for Zionism and the colonial crimes it commits as its declared “birthright”.

Only secular democracy and de-militarization can solve the problem of the ethno-state and its permanent war.


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