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Obama Immediately Passes Israel Test

Obama’s support for Israel holds firm during Pillar of Defense

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(Israel Matzav)

Just fifteen days ago we were awash in warnings about President Obama, whose alleged animus toward Israel was going to make itself painfully known just as soon as he was re-elected. Obama will throw Israel under the bus…Obama will reveal himself in his second term….

“Think about Obama’s anti-Israel friends and mentors—radicals like Rashid Khalidi, Frank Marshall Davis, Jeremiah Wright, or the late Edward Said, the virulently anti-Israel professor under whom Obama studied,” we were warned by Sheldon Adelson. “Has he made anti-Israel promises to them? Is Obama’s campaign rhetoric in support of Israel only creating ‘space’ till after the election?”

Well, here we are, post-election. Doomsday!

Just mere weeks after the election, no one expected that Obama’s first real test on Israel would come quite so quickly and under such frightening circumstances. But it did. And throughout Operation Pillar of Defense, President Obama acted like a pro-Israel president would. He affirmed and reaffirmed Israel’s right to defend itself and blocked efforts by the United Nations to howl their condemnations. He insisted first that Hamas stop firing rockets. He warned against, but did not outright oppose, what would have likely been a disastrous ground invasion campaign for Israel. He dispatched his most able and highest ranking diplomat to mediate the ceasefire. And perhaps most importantly of all, the Iron Dome system that he (along with bipartisan support) underwrote was instrumental in not only saving Israeli lives, but altering the shape of what could have been a much bloodier conflict.

Israel remains popular across the aisle and American efforts to defend it are led by a president who has (for now) proven that his words and deeds match. This week especially, I’m thankful for that.

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Poupic says:

This is the test? He handed Hamas hat they call a victory over Israel. Hmas is a terrorist group for Israel similar to Al Qaeda for the USA. In addition it is a US declared terror group. People have gone to jail for their involvement with Hamas and now a US President just did it too. Would the USA negotiate a ceas fire with Al Qaeda?

The test, the real test will be his despicable “1967 line as a starting negotiating line that of includes part of Jerusalem, the eternal capital of the Jewish nation and never an Arab capital even when Arabs held the city for centuries. If Obama has his way, there will be a price to pay: Maybe next year during the Seder Jews will say “Next year in Al Qudz” instead of in Jerusaem.This is the test? He handed Hamas hat they call a victory over Israel. Hmas is a terrorist group for Israel similar to Al Qaeda for the USA. In addition it is a US declared terror group. People have gone to jail for their involvement with Hamas and now a US President just did it too. Would the USA negotiate a cease fire with Al Qaeda?

The test, the real test will be his despicable “1967 line as a starting negotiating line that of includes part of Jerusalem, the eternal capital of the Jewish nation and never an Arab capital even when Arabs held the city for centuries. If Obama has his way, there will be a price to pay: Maybe next year during the Seder Jews will say “Next year in Al Qudz” instead of in Jerusalem.

    jacob_arnon says:

    “He handed Hamas hat they call a victory over Israel.”

    If losing you best fighters and your arsenal is a victory then they won. Hamas like all Arab countries and societies will always declare victory. It’s obvious that they didn’t win anything by going to war against Israel.

      Poupic says:

      It is not obvious to you and me. But taking into account the infinite Arab capability for creating Fantazia. In their eyes they won and in the Arab world they did. Abbas is now depressed for the glory Hamas has garnered his stock in the basement while Hamas is enemy is way up there.

        jacob_arnon says:

        Poupic, the Arabs will always claim victory. Claiming victories is their god given right.

        It’s also their weakness.

    mouskatel says:

    I hate Hamas as much as the next Israeli, but they would declare victory no matter what they suffered. The entire Gaza could be flattened, but they’d dig up some candy and some old scooters and still go through the streets beeping and calling a victory. Not much we can do about that.

First, congress drove the funding for iron dome. Obama tried to gut it. Second, Netanyahu said he acceded to the cease fire. Which means he was forced into it. By who I ask. Hamas and Egypt won this confrontation. And you can’t spin that.

    jacob_arnon says:

    Pearlman, you are a dyed in the wool Obama hater.

    Give it a rest.

      Are you kidding me. He forced Israel into a cease fire. God knows what he promised Egypt and Turkey here. And your impressed that he mouthed a few stale platitudes. And sent his stooge Hillary over there. It’s like Chrisie acting like he was Jimmy Doolittle back from bombing Tokyo when he dropped in on NJ by marine one

        jacob_arnon says:

        Stop using stale cliches like “stooge Clinton.”

        I don’t like the outcome any more than you do. However, the dynamics of international politics needs to be taken into account.

        Still, a lot was achieved. Obama held off a vote in the security council which gave Israel enough time to degrade Hamas’ weapons.

        I have more trust n Hamas’ bad faith than you seem to, and when they break the cease fire Israel will then have a chance to go in and take out the despotic regime.

        IN the meantime it’s our job to re-frame the conflict as a conflict as one between liberal values and an obscurantist tyrannical religious ideology which terrorizes its citizens and doesn’t allow women any freedom.

        Of course, your own distaste for liberal values makes this scenario equally unappealing to you.

        Tough.

        jacob_arnon says:

        Stop using stale cliches like “stooge Clinton.”

        I don’t like the outcome any more than you do. However, the dynamics of international politics needs to be taken into account.

        Still, a lot was achieved. Obama held off a vote in the security council which gave Israel enough time to degrade Hamas’ weapons.

        I have more trust n Hamas’ bad faith than you seem to, and when they break the cease fire Israel will then have a chance to go in and take out the despotic regime.

        IN the meantime it’s our job to re-frame the conflict as a conflict as one between liberal values and an obscurantist tyrannical religious ideology which terrorizes its citizens and doesn’t allow women any freedom.

        Of course, your own distaste for liberal values makes this scenario equally unappealing to you.

        Tough.

      Are you kidding me. He forced Israel into a cease fire. God knows what he promised Egypt and Turkey here. And your impressed that he mouthed a few stale platitudes. And sent his stooge Hillary over there. It’s like Chrisie acting like he was Jimmy Doolittle back from bombing Tokyo when he dropped in on NJ by marine one

      Jacob, to tag those fellow Jews who disagree with you with partisan political slurs seems to imply that objective and morally justifiable reasons for their views do not exist even if the dissenters present them, and that the dissenters are being dishonest. Their reasons do not need to be taken seriously and examined. According to this they are actually just politically or otherwise biased by an unreasoning hatred of Obama, at any cost. All their explanations are just phony excuses for irrational hatred. (Now I can agree that this is precisely the case with fanatics of all sort, including antisemitic fanatics. But is it the case with everyone who dissents from you in contextualized and nuanced, non-totalizing, moderate and reasonable terms too?)

      Or perhaps you mean that even these more moderate and measured Jewish (and non-Jewish) dissenters from your views actually care more, for some inexplicable reason, for the Republican Party than for the good of either the United States or the Jewish people and Israel? The suggestion begins to look rather far-fetched as well as insulting.

      In any case I am sure you cannot really mean those simplistic rebuttals on deeper reflection, for it must have occurred to you that they could also then quite logically apply as well in the other direction, to your own disagreement with their views too, and your own support for Obama and the Democratic Party. You quite properly see this as sincerely based on good and both Jewish and non-Jewish more general reasons. If anyone used such a mode of polemic against you, you would rightly see this as purposely missing the point, and even ignoring on principle the real content of your arguments, replacing them with ad hominem attacks on your own basic integrity.

      On this reading of political and real-world differences, where mere passions rule instead of reason of any real sort, then it can only be power and oppression that decides the “truth” of ethical and social-value issues. And I am quite sure that you do not believe that.

    Pam Green says:

    Thanks Bill. I think it’s important to remind people that Obama tried to gut Iron Dome. (Also, that Iron Dome is an Israeli invention which the U.S. helped finance – it is not U.S. technology.) Nevertheless, I don’t agree that Hamas and Egypt won this confrontation, for several reasons.

    First, world opinion is more pro-Israel now than it was before this campaign. Sure, the UN Security Council denounced Israel, and Putin is going to bring a resolution declaring Israel at fault. But for the first time, these pontificating anti-Semites could not distract the international public from what was really happening. The public had a front-row seat to the conflict, thanks to Israel’s new social media strategy. Israel not only showcased Iron Dome’s capabilities (immediately bringing in billions of dollars worth of orders) but people also saw how restrained Israel’s response was, how compassionate toward enemy civilians compared to the Palestinians, who cheered every time Israeli citizens were injured or killed. The public also witnessed Hamas street gangs dragging corpses of innocent Palestinians behind their motorcycles, without any response from Gazan police, soldiers, or bystanders, proving once again what Israel has said about lawlessness, complicity, inability to govern.

    Secondly, Israel can add conditions once Hamas breaks this agreement, as we know it will. IMO, some of the conditions should be (1) that the Gazans hold a new election to determine if Hamas still has majority support. If they re-elect Hamas, it will show the world that the idea of ‘civilians’ is questionable when talking about Gaza and (2) Israel should no longer supply electricity and water to Gaza, when the Gazans refuse to pay. This idea is already being floated by Israeli politicians who say, ‘Let Egypt supply Gaza’s utilities’.

    Thirdly, despite Hamas demanding a lifting of the blockade, Israel agreed to this only in theory, not practice. No deadlines, no methods, were agreed upon. And given that a lot of Gaza’s stockpiles were taken out, if it resumes fighting any time soon, everyone will know that Egypt has allowed Iran to smuggle a new arsenal into the territory, proving the need for the blockade.

    Fourth, the Syrian terrorists might have opened up a new front of this war if Israel had invaded Gaza. I think the Islamist strategy (which Obama has made possible) is to force Israel to fight on every border at once. And the fact is that the idea of any campaign ending the Gaza threat once and for all is not realistic.

    Maybe I’m naive, but I really don’t think Hamas and Egypt ‘won’ a thing.

      jacob_arnon says:

      Pam like a loyal Republican attacks Obama. The truth however is otherwise:

      “In May 2010, the White House announced that U.S. President Barack Obama would seek $205 million from U.S. Congress in his 2011 budget, to spur the production and deployment of additional Iron Dome batteries. White House spokesman Tommy Vietor stated, “The president recognizes the threat missiles and rockets fired by Hamas and Hezbollah pose to Israelis, and has therefore decided to seek funding from Congress to support the production of Israel’s short range rocket defense system called Iron Dome.” This would be the first direct U.S. investment in the project.[25] Such financial assistance could expedite the completion of the defensive system, which has long been delayed by budgetary shortfalls.[26] A few days later, on 20 May 2010, the U.S. House of Representatives approved the funding in a 410–4 vote.[27] The bill, the United States–Israel Missile Defense Cooperation and Support Act (H.R. 5327), was sponsored by Representative Glenn C. Nye of Virginia.[28] This money was expected to be included in the 2011 budget. Once the money is received in 2011, it will still take a further 18 months before the additional batteries are delivered to the air force.[29]“

        Pam Green says:

        What is your source, Jacob? You have everything in quotes – and footnotes too! – but no indication of what they refer to.

        Frankly, I’m suspicious. Your (unidentified) source says that the WH made its announcement in May 2010 and A FEW DAYS LATER Congress passed the bill. So, the bill must have been around before Obama started seeking the funds!

          jacob_arnon says:

          Sources: look at the footnotes in this article:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome#Funding

          I checked the footnotes out and they seemed authentic.

          Pam Green says:

          Okay, thanks, but I went to wikipedia too, and what I found was:

          1) the money sought and approved was conditional (as are future amounts) on Israel sharing the technology with the U.S. – not just sharing it, but allowing the Iron Dome to be manufactured by American companies in the U.S. and

          2) the reason the U.S. did not help fund the development of this technology earlier was that the govt of Israel gave the contract to an Israeli company instead of America’s choice, Lockheed Martin.

          Apparently, there is nothing like the Iron Dome anywhere else. So this was not a handout that Israel should be oh-so-grateful to Obama for. The U.S. funds were not charity; they were an investment.

          jacob_arnon says:

          I never said that it was a handout.

          And of course each country wants its manufacturing sector to produce it. That’s normal This would be true under any administration.

          What isn’t true is that Obama is anti-Israel. That’s just a Republican lie. It’s also a dangerous lie.

          .

          Pam Green says:

          Well, I happen to disagree with you. For starters, Obama favored the MB taking power in Egypt and actively worked to make that happen. This signaled to the world that America abandons its friends, in this case Mubarrak. Then Obama destroys Libya, replacing a secular government there with more radical terrorists. Are we seeing a pattern? Obama also applied pressure to ˇTurkey about the Islamist radical Erdogan, who killed off hundreds of secularists in his military and professional classes. And Obama also abandoned the secular Iranian protestors he had promised to support when the Iranian dictator fraudulently won reelection. And of course Obama left Iraq wide open for Iran to move in there, which they did. And Obama supplied weapons and funds to terrorists against Assad in Syria. And Jordan is toppling. And Obama forced Israel to accede to a ceasefire with Hamas. So, obviously, Obama has utterly destabilized the ME, encouraged the rise of the most radical Islamists, and surrounded Israel on every front with terrorists. You call that pro-Israel?

          I’d say your delusions are dangerous.

          Jacob Arnon says:

          written like a true Republican believer.

          good luck to you Pam.

          Jacob, Jacob, that is not an answer to Pam. It is a refusal even to think about what she wrote. For it is all true.

          Pam Green says:

          Thank you, Tzur.

          I was not aware of the Iron Dome issue. Thank you Pam for drawing our attention to it.

          In general, federal money always comes with the major “string” attached of government control: he who pays the piper calls the tune. For after all Big Daddy always knows best, for us naughty immoral children. We see it throughout the U.S. today; it is one of the chief flaws of Obama’s medical reform program, as is well-known. It affects higher education and other sectors.

          In terms of foreign affairs, Israel has been very firmly put down as a naughty child by this administration, even more than by its predecessors. Nevertheless, previous administrations have sought similar hammerlock control of Israel’s military expertise, squashing the Lavie fighter jet as too competitive with American jet sales internationally, forbidding international sales of the command-control-center jet planes Israel makes, restricting tank sales, and similarly suppressing or co-opting billions of dollars of other advanced technological developments in Israel, one of the chief high technology innovators in the world. Israel is certainly amongst the chief strategic assets of the Americans, in lots of ways. Now it appears that this applies as well to the Iron Dome system, which like her drone developments is far superior to anything the Americans had been able to do ever since Reagan first endorsed “star wars” defense systems. This makes the billions of aid given Israel for it to spend on American hardware a kind of dubious gift of enforced dependency, and in the most optimistic view can only be justified as fair payment for the financial losses the U.S. forces on Israeli military manufacture.

          Pam Green says:

          I so agree. I read that Israel has been flooded with orders for the Iron Dome, after the entire world witnessed how well it works. I wonder if the U.S. will try to prevent Israel from making those sales?

          It’s so ironic that one of the major complaints of the anti-Semites/anti-Zionists here in America is that they don’t want their tax dollars supporting Israel. But if Israel tried to break away from the U.S., compensating for American ‘charity’ with tech and military sales, we’d all see how quickly America tried to force Israel back into its dependency.

          I also read that Obama has attempted to destroy key friendships and alliances that Israel has made on its own with other countries. Kazakhstan, for instance, offered to let Israel refuel its planes there if it attacks Iran, and because of this, Obama is threatening the Kazakhs. (In regard to Kazakhstan, I also can’t help but think of Sacha Baron Cohen choosing one of Israel’s key allies to humiliate; was that an intentionally political decision?)

    Jacob Arnon says:

    Bill P what you wrote isn’t factual.

    I have no doubt that Obama put some pressure on Israel not to go into Gaza.

    Perhaps the pressure was in the form of a promise to deal with Iran.

    Which is more important right now, Hamas, or Iran?

    Think about that?

      Pam Green says:

      “Perhaps the pressure was in the form of a promise to deal with Iran.”

      NOT LIKELY, JACOB. And, by the way, aren’t you the same guy who responded (above) to Julis123 by writing, “Neither do you have any idea of what went on behind the scenes…One shouldn’t talk about what one doesn’t know.”

jacob_arnon says:

“A Former Terrorist Speak Out – Israel/Palestine conflict….”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2wvqDfitLY

Normando782 says:

While it appears admirable that Obama has forced Egypt to come to the table to broker a cease fire it has made Morsi a hero in the Arab world but has not put an end to his ally Hamas desire to act as a belligerent tool for Iran and has forced Israel to abandon taking out the missile arsenal of Hamas as well as protectecting the Hamas leadership. Oliver North indicated that Obama would cut off the delivery of spare airplane parts needed by the Israeli Air Force if they did not agree to a truce. It looks to me that Hamas has been spared so that they can fight another day on their own terms. Let us not forget Iran is making spectacular gains toward a nuclear weapon and the embargo has not reached it`s desired effect.

julis123 says:

You have no idea what is going on behind the scenes. Maybe Israel wanted a ground invasion and Obama threatened Bibi with an aid cutoff.

    I would hope so. No aid should be unconditional.

      jacob_arnon says:

      No aid unconditional and that works both ways.

      America is getting a lot from its partnership with Israel..

      Yevka like Stalinist he is would never admit that. He couldn’t even imagine it the pathetic bigot.

        Well it’s just an even fact of life that butchers like Bibi don’t always get carte blanhce. That’s the way it goes as everybody knows. That smear still doesn’t stick Jacob so just lay on just as thick as the thickness between your ears.

          jacob_arnon says:

          Stalinist Yevka can’t write in English and doesn’t seem to know the meaning of what he writes.

          If Bibi were a “butcher” yevka would love him. He loves Stalinists and Hamas because they were and are butchers. butcher.

          Not only Bibi, whom I rarely refer to as such preferring instead Bubba which is more generally descriptive of the man’s over all character which reminds me much of a Texas redneck. But also the of Russian born butcher Avigdor Lieberman. Have a lovely livid day Jacob and wipe that angry spittle off of your chin it looks most undignified.

          Jacob Arnon says:

          Yevka the hateful Jew hater is back with more Stalinist bullshit.

          Stalinists according to them are peace loving people, they never hurt a fly. At least not that you can see.

          Yevka attacks Netanyahu and Lieberman, I don’t vote for them. or wouldn’t if I lived in Israel.

          Interesting that Yenta Yevka thinks that Hamas folk are also like Stalin was peace loving people.

          Then there is the real Butcher in Syria who has been killing Arabs bu the bushel.

          Yevka doesn’t care if Arabs kill Arabs or if Russians kill Muslims as in Chechnya and these people have killed more than hundreds of thousands of Arabs. No Yevka cares nothing about that.

          All he cares about is to attack the Jewish State who like Stalin he wants to see destroyed.

          Yevka is a paradigm of Jew haters. Ignorant, hateful, a hypocrite and a Stalinist.

          I hope you drop dead, Yevka. No one will miss a pro war criminal like you.

          Jacob Arnon says:

          The Russian Yevka, a lover of Stalin thinks that anger is undignified.

          screw hypocritical creep. you are an occasion for merriment. Jew hating piece of manure

          Go kiss the murdering Mashal’ ass somewhere else.

          “Butchers like Bibl”: that’s a good one. No evidence whatsoever need bother Yevka. But he is such a moral guy, after all, so keen for example to defend and justify Hamas and Fatah, and the constant and blatant Palestinian terrorist atrocities in general, oh yes.

          Actually this sort of claim and absolutely brainless double standards is common amongst pro-Palestinian, basically antisemitic fanatics. Israel supposedly commits “genocide” against the Palestinian people. It even allegedly has plans to take over the entire Middle East, and wipe out the Arab people as such, if you can believe the Arab propaganda, that why “We are all Hezbollah/Hamas now!” Oddly enough, there are no public statements in Israel supporting such genocidal intentions, but it is the allegedly top-secret Protocols of the Elders of Zion plan held by all its leaders. I mean, all the Israeli leaders ARE Zionists, right? And so are all Israeli Jews, right? That’s what Zionism really promulgates, right?

          Really insane stuff. Meanwhile calls to wipe out Israel are spouted constantly from mosque pulpits in the P.A. and throughout the Middle East, and broadcast on TV and repeated in the Arab press, with no complaints heard from the anti-Israel crowd. From time to time outright wars are launched against the state with the explicit aim to annihilate its people altogether, or, as in the case of Gaza, thousands of rockets are shot off against it with genocidal intention, again with no problems raised by the same crowd. It is why I call them all Nazistic. The charge of “butchery” and other such claims (“ethnic cleansing,” etc.), all instead reveal the hidden self-confession of the accusers projected onto their would-be victims, to justify their own genocidal intentions.

          If Bibi is a butcher, why o why didn’t he just wipe out all the Gazan population when he had a chance? After all, Israel certainly could do it in a jiffy: it has had the power to do it at any time in the past several decades. Bibi could have made it all strictly “proportional”: all that would need is something like 14,500 or so rockets and mortars slammed perfectly at random into Gaza to match the 14,500 or so since 2005 that have been shot from Gaza into Israel. Or, if one wants to say that the Gaza campaign of 2008-9 squared the account of the 8,500 rockets (leaving out the mortars) up to that time, then let it be just 6,000 rockets and mortars. Sounds fair enough, and should be agreeable to all those highly moral human rights enthusiasts at the UN and elsewhere who call for “proportionality.” Instead, only 100 people were killed in Gaza, at least half of whom were active terrorists including their leaders, even though the terrorists conscientiously hid amongst the civilian population. What an incompetent IDF to kill so few innocent Gazans, given that they have genocidal intentions!

      jacob_arnon says:

      No aid unconditional and that works both ways.

      America is getting a lot from its partnership with Israel..

      Yevka like Stalinist he is would never admit that. He couldn’t even imagine it the pathetic bigot.

    I would hope so. No aid should be unconditional.

    jacob_arnon says:

    Neither do you have any idea of what went on behind the scenes. Maybe Obama promissed Israel the moon.

    One shouldn’t talk about what one doesn’t know.

    jacob_arnon says:

    Neither do you have any idea of what went on behind the scenes. Maybe Obama promissed Israel the moon.

    One shouldn’t talk about what one doesn’t know.

Dick Stanley says:

We know what Barry said in public, we have no idea what he said to Bibi in private or why Bibi acceded. Or what we paid Egypt and Hamas to back down. Better hope it’s in installments. Otherwise, the “cease fire” won’t last long. In any case, military campaigns are not won from the air. This only puts off the inevitable. It’ll be interesting to see what Barry does then.

    “Barry” is a racist characterization of the serving president of the United States. I think you need an enlightenment and some adult education would most likely be beneficial to you as well. His name you will notice is not “Barry’ but Barack. If a ceasefire does not hold it is most likely because you do not want a ceasefire to hold deep in the bowels of your little black heart.

      Disrespectful, arguably, but to claim it’s a “racist” characterization is absurd. More to the point, the very fact that you use the term strongly suggests that your are given to making irrational and nasty inferences about the character of those who hold views that differ from your own. Specifically, it is self-evident that your assertions as to what Dick believes in the the “bowels” of his “little black heart,” cannot reasonably be inferred from words written by Dick. In sum, yevka, you’re the one whose behavior is irresponsible and inappropriate.

      Disrespectful, arguably, but to claim it’s a “racist” characterization is absurd. More to the point, the very fact that you use the term strongly suggests that your are given to making irrational and nasty inferences about the character of those who hold views that differ from your own. Specifically, it is self-evident that your assertions as to what Dick believes in the the “bowels” of his “little black heart,” cannot reasonably be inferred from words written by Dick. In sum, yevka, you’re the one whose behavior is irresponsible and inappropriate.

      jacob_arnon says:

      The Stalinist Yevka posts wishful thinking.

      If the cease fire doesn’t hold it’s because Hamas has no intention on honoring it.

      The intentional firing of rockets at civilians at will is a war crime. Only pro-Hamas racist antisemites wouldn’t acknowledge that.

      jacob_arnon says:

      The Stalinist Yevka posts wishful thinking.

      If the cease fire doesn’t hold it’s because Hamas has no intention on honoring it.

      The intentional firing of rockets at civilians at will is a war crime. Only pro-Hamas racist antisemites wouldn’t acknowledge that.

      Yevka, if Netanyahu is “Bibi” or “Bubba,” then you have lost the right to insist on etiquette and “enlightenment” for those who call Obama “Barry.” The standard you set in black hearts is the one you will have to live with.

jjs110 says:

Just you wait. This was small change and easy to handle for him. The real test is just around the corner: Iran. That’s when we’ll know for sure whether he is really a staunch supporter of Israel, or if he’s been very good at pretending and fooling everyone.

Richard says:

Hi JJS,
I agree with all your comments,especially concerning Iran.This ceasefire actually helps Hamas,it allows them to regroup and get more weapons to attack Israel in the future.Israel could have finished them off now but Obama wanted to save his brothers so that they can live and fight another day.Don’t forget and most people do not know this is that the Democrats removed from their party platform that Hamas should be isolated.How do take that?I’m convinced that 70% of Jews are dumber than dumb.

Jack Lippman says:

I wonder if the young Hasid pictured near the vicious anti-Obama poster at the head of the article would fight for Israel if he were there, or evade military service. And what solution would he offer other than to deport the Arabs and restore Israel to its Biblical boundaries? Obama stood with Israel. The miissile attacks have stopped and there may be a chance for peace if the tunnels supplying munitions to Gaza can be cut off.

nopeacenow says:

There Is No Ceasefire – Daniel Greenfield

The ceasefire
began the way that the war did; with a flight of rockets falling from the sky
over Israel’s battered south where working class families wait to learn if they
will have to spend the night in safe rooms and shelters.

There is no ceasefire, despite declarations from the international community
to the contrary, just as there has been no peace for the past twenty years
despite peace accords being signed.

In the language of diplomacy, ceasefire does not mean that the rockets will
stop falling and peace does not mean an end to the violence. They mean only that
Israel is not allowed to fight back when the rockets fall and the bombs go off.
Peace does not mean an absence of killing; what it means is that the terrorists
are the only ones allowed to kill.

There is no ceasefire, despite declarations from the international community
to the contrary, just as there has been no peace for the past twenty years
despite peace accords being signed.

In the language of diplomacy, ceasefire does not mean that the rockets will
stop falling and peace does not mean an end to the violence. They mean only that
Israel is not allowed to fight back when the rockets fall and the bombs go off.
Peace does not mean an absence of killing; what it means is that the terrorists
are the only ones allowed to kill.

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/there-is-no-ceasefire/

PhillipNagle says:

We have yet to learn how much pressure the Obama administration put on Israel to accept this cease fire which on the face of it looks like a victory for Hamas. To say Obama passed his “israel test” is at best premature.

Wait
a sec….. You mean or those brilliant, sophisticated Jewish birthers
were wrong? I’m shocked, SHOCKED. duh. Though no doubt, in keeping
with tried and true practice of boorish, tribal conservatives, they’ll
twist this reality to suggest Obama will sooner or later: “THROW ISRAEL
UNDER THE BUS!” The truth is so inconvenient, isn’t it? Thank God for
Fox Noise.

LtcHoward says:

Those who worry about what was threatened by Obama are correct. The threats to “slow down the supply chain” related to certain potential Israeli actions. Chandler and his fellow PR cheerleaders are premature in their praise.

check out “Two Frat Solution”. It’s a webseries article spoofing the israeli/palestinian conflict.

    Jacob Arnon says:

    Antisemitic and racist Yevka is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

      Just ignore the jerk. Obviously the “moderators” of this website do (relinquishing their responsibilities as if they do not exist — there appears to be no provision to report asinine abusive posts on this website, and that can be no accident). He obviously intends to get your and every other Jewish reader’s goat; don’t give him the pleasure. What sort of person after all would haunt a Jewish website to smear everything Jewish with his own inner bile, accusing them of his own tendencies so as to justify his hate? You know the answer as well as I do.

        Pam Green says:

        “…there appears to be no provision to report off-topic, asinine, abusive or racist posts on this website, and that can be no accident. If there is any mechanism to request removal of such posts, it is very well hidden.” I agree that Tablet has really failed to prevent anti-Semitic filth from being posted on this site. The only thing I can suggest is writing directly to the editors to complain. Also, I “flag as inappropriate” most of Yevka’s posts (and others like Yevka), in the hope that eventually somebody will pay attention.

          I went to the email address of the editors of Tabletmag (via the “Contact us” webpage) on a previous occasion, to complain about the practical take-over of that article’s comments page by a truly extreme neo-Nazi antisemitic poster, and although some (only) of those posts were removed, many of my own subsequent posts on that and some other Tabletmag webpages were also blocked for a time as “abusive” even when they were solely devoted to general information issues, unrelated to persons. Perhaps there was some miscommunication between editors and moderators. It has cleared up by itself in more recent months.

          I am not aware of any “flag as inappropriate” links on this actual web-page alerting the moderator. Where are they?

          Pam Green says:

          If you pass your mouse over the top-righthand corner of any post, to the opposite of the poster’s name, a hyphen, slash, and downward arrow will appear. If you click on the downward arrow, it will say, “Flag as inappropriate”. If you click that, a Disqus question will pop up, “Are you sure you want to flag this comment as inappropriate?” and you can say Yes.

          Of course, this is a Disqus question, so I’m not sure if or how this data gets back to the Tablet editors.

          As for the fact that Tablet removed your comments along with merely some of the comments of a neo-Nazi doesn’t surprise me. I think Tablet practices the moral equivalence game. Have you been a Tablet reader for a long time? I’ve read countless posts by people complaining that they were canceling their subscriptions because they couldn’t stand the ‘progressive’ bias against Israel, the favoring of reform over traditional Judaism, and the anti-Republicanism. I don’t know if those people actually did cancel their subscriptions but I haven’t seen posts by many of them since the election.

I abhor Obama’s record on Israel, but I agree that his policy of providing military materiel to Israel is very good indeed, and his support in the Gaza crisis over the last week or two has been very important and seemingly welcome. On the other hand, do we see his behind-the-scenes heavy pressure and threats in the concessions forced from Israel in the Gaza truce that Netanyahu reluctantly agreed to? I think we do, indeed a number of not so subtle statements from Obama and the State Department, Hillary Clinton, etc., suggest as much, and these concessions to the Muslim Brotherhood’s new tyrant in Egypt, Morsi, and to Hamas the Muslim Brotherhood affiliate which give it new legitimacy internationally and lighten the blockade further, are arguably not in Israel’s long-term interests however much they may be in tune with Obama’s own PR campaign in the Muslim world. In this connection it is quite disturbing that Obama is being advised and aided by high level Muslim Brotherhood staff in the State Department and the Oval Office itself.

As for Obama’s general record on Israel, and just why it is so very poor and ill-conceived, see for example the article by Anne Bayefsky, the highly respected Director of the Touro Institute on Human Rights, an expert on international law who has focussed much acerbic attention on the U.N., “Obama’s real record on Israel,” at FoxNews.com for October 23, 2012. Also see the many extremely knowledgeable and cutting analyses of Professor Barry Rubin, one of the world’s leading academic authorities on Middle Eastern affairs (see http://www.gloria-center.org) over the past several years. The absence of any real peace talks between the Palestinians and Israel is directly due to Obama’s naive interventions against Israel (and never the Palestinians) from his entry into office. His humiliations of Netanyahu over the years have been public and not matched by his treatment of any other ally, much less any enemy of the U.S. such as Russia, China, or even the covert enemy Saudi Arabia. (Remember as well his orchestrated series of coarse insults directed at Israel’s democratically elected government issued through the mouthpieces Robert Gates, Leon Panetta, Hilary Clinton and Bill Clinton, and even the U.S. Ambassador to antisemitic Belgium Howard Gutman — who famously blamed Israel for Muslim and European antisemitism — throughout 2011 and early 2012?). His Middle East policies helped enormously to destabilize the Middle East, damaging American interests and allies and making it a much more violent and dangerous region. Those policies gave a major impetus to the takeover of Islamists throughout the Muslim world, and the turn away from the American alliance and Israel on the part of Turkey, Egypt (everyone knows that Morsi must give lip service to the U.S., but he and most of the Islamists now suddenly in power in Egypt are deeply hostile to both Israel and the U.S. — even their diplomatic staff are no longer safe), Saudi Arabia itself and various other Arab states. These policies just in themselves have very severely affected israel’s security. In regard to the most immediate and existential of these threats to Israel, Obama’s Iran policy has been just as damaging, foolish and feckless as all his other policies: even the sanctions he now boasts as his own great initiative and chief proof of his strong foreign policy was forced on him, very much against his will, by Congress; even Europe has been tougher than he has been. We now learn, according to reports that I hope are exaggerated, that he is negotiating (through his Muslim Brotherhood staff members) with the Iranian regime to reach an accommodation that will permit Iran all but full nuclearization in return for dropping the sanctions altogether.

I think Obama does consider himself a friend to Israel, but it is just that he also thinks he knows far better than the Israeli people themselves, and their democratically elected government, just what they must concede to gain that mirage of peace with the Muslim world and the Palestinians. This condescending arrogance is the mark of the man.

I abhor Obama’s record on Israel, but I agree that his policy of providing military materiel to Israel is very good indeed, and his support in the Gaza crisis over the last week or two has been very important and seemingly welcome. On the other hand, do we see his behind-the-scenes heavy pressure and threats in the concessions forced from Israel in the Gaza truce that Netanyahu reluctantly agreed to? I think we do, indeed a number of not so subtle statements from Obama and the State Department, Hillary Clinton, etc., suggest as much, and these concessions to the Muslim Brotherhood’s new tyrant in Egypt, Morsi, and to Hamas the Muslim Brotherhood affiliate which give it new legitimacy internationally and lighten the blockade further, are arguably not in Israel’s long-term interests however much they may be in tune with Obama’s own PR campaign in the Muslim world. In this connection it is quite disturbing that Obama is being advised and aided by high level Muslim Brotherhood staff in the State Department and the Oval Office itself.

As for Obama’s general record on Israel, and just why it is so very poor and ill-conceived, see for example the article by Anne Bayefsky, the highly respected Director of the Touro Institute on Human Rights, an expert on international law who has focussed much acerbic attention on the U.N., “Obama’s real record on Israel,” at FoxNews.com for October 23, 2012. Also see the many extremely knowledgeable and cutting analyses of Professor Barry Rubin, one of the world’s leading academic authorities on Middle Eastern affairs (see http://www.gloria-center.org) over the past several years. The absence of any real peace talks between the Palestinians and Israel is directly due to Obama’s naive interventions against Israel (and never the Palestinians) from his entry into office. His humiliations of Netanyahu over the years have been public and not matched by his treatment of any other ally, much less any enemy of the U.S. such as Russia, China, or even the covert enemy Saudi Arabia. (Remember as well his orchestrated series of coarse insults directed at Israel’s democratically elected government issued through the mouthpieces Robert Gates, Leon Panetta, Hilary Clinton and Bill Clinton, and even the U.S. Ambassador to antisemitic Belgium Howard Gutman — who famously blamed Israel for Muslim and European antisemitism — throughout 2011 and early 2012?). His Middle East policies helped enormously to destabilize the Middle East, damaging American interests and allies and making it a much more violent and dangerous region. Those policies gave a major impetus to the takeover of Islamists throughout the Muslim world, and the turn away from the American alliance and Israel on the part of Turkey, Egypt (everyone knows that Morsi must give lip service to the U.S., but he and most of the Islamists now suddenly in power in Egypt are deeply hostile to both Israel and the U.S. — even their diplomatic staff are no longer safe), Saudi Arabia itself and various other Arab states. These policies just in themselves have very severely affected israel’s security. In regard to the most immediate and existential of these threats to Israel, Obama’s Iran policy has been just as damaging, foolish and feckless as all his other policies: even the sanctions he now boasts as his own great initiative and chief proof of his strong foreign policy was forced on him, very much against his will, by Congress; even Europe has been tougher than he has been. We now learn, according to reports that I hope are exaggerated, that he is negotiating (through his Muslim Brotherhood staff members) with the Iranian regime to reach an accommodation that will permit Iran all but full nuclearization in return for dropping the sanctions altogether.

I think Obama does consider himself a friend to Israel, but it is just that he also thinks he knows far better than the Israeli people themselves, and their democratically elected government, just what they must concede to gain that mirage of peace with the Muslim world and the Palestinians. This condescending arrogance is the mark of the man.

I abhor Obama’s record on Israel, but I agree that his policy of providing military materiel to Israel is very good indeed, and his support in the Gaza crisis over the last week or two has been very important and seemingly welcome. On the other hand, do we see his behind-the-scenes heavy pressure and threats in the concessions forced from Israel in the Gaza truce that Netanyahu reluctantly agreed to? I think we do, indeed a number of not so subtle statements from Obama and the State Department, Hillary Clinton, etc., suggest as much, and these concessions to the Muslim Brotherhood’s new tyrant in Egypt, Morsi, and to Hamas the Muslim Brotherhood affiliate which give it new legitimacy internationally and lighten the blockade further, are arguably not in Israel’s long-term interests however much they may be in tune with Obama’s own PR campaign in the Muslim world. In this connection it is quite disturbing that Obama is being advised and aided by high level Muslim Brotherhood staff in the State Department and the Oval Office itself.

As for Obama’s general record on Israel, and just why it is so very poor and ill-conceived, see for example the article by Anne Bayefsky, the highly respected Director of the Touro Institute on Human Rights, an expert on international law who has focussed much acerbic attention on the U.N., “Obama’s real record on Israel,” at FoxNews.com for October 23, 2012. Also see the many extremely knowledgeable and cutting analyses of Professor Barry Rubin, one of the world’s leading academic authorities on Middle Eastern affairs (see http://www.gloria-center.org) over the past several years. The absence of any real peace talks between the Palestinians and Israel is directly due to Obama’s naive interventions against Israel (and never the Palestinians) from his entry into office. His humiliations of Netanyahu over the years have been public and not matched by his treatment of any other ally, much less any enemy of the U.S. such as Russia, China, or even the covert enemy Saudi Arabia. (Remember as well his orchestrated series of coarse insults directed at Israel’s democratically elected government issued through the mouthpieces Robert Gates, Leon Panetta, Hilary Clinton and Bill Clinton, and even the U.S. Ambassador to antisemitic Belgium Howard Gutman — who famously blamed Israel for Muslim and European antisemitism — throughout 2011 and early 2012?). His Middle East policies helped enormously to destabilize the Middle East, damaging American interests and allies and making it a much more violent and dangerous region. Those policies gave a major impetus to the takeover of Islamists throughout the Muslim world, and the turn away from the American alliance and Israel on the part of Turkey, Egypt (everyone knows that Morsi must give lip service to the U.S., but he and most of the Islamists now suddenly in power in Egypt are deeply hostile to both Israel and the U.S. — even their diplomatic staff are no longer safe), Saudi Arabia itself and various other Arab states. These policies just in themselves have very severely affected israel’s security. In regard to the most immediate and existential of these threats to Israel, Obama’s Iran policy has been just as damaging, foolish and feckless as all his other policies: even the sanctions he now boasts as his own great initiative and chief proof of his strong foreign policy was forced on him, very much against his will, by Congress; even Europe has been tougher than he has been. We now learn, according to reports that I hope are exaggerated, that he is negotiating (through his Muslim Brotherhood staff members) with the Iranian regime to reach an accommodation that will permit Iran all but full nuclearization in return for dropping the sanctions altogether.

I think Obama does consider himself a friend to Israel, but it is just that he also thinks he knows far better than the Israeli people themselves, and their democratically elected government, just what they must concede to gain that mirage of peace with the Muslim world and the Palestinians. This condescending arrogance is the mark of the man.

    Pam Green says:

    Islamists have been throwing vast sums of money at American minorities for decades. Obama is the fruit of all that investment.

      Gen. krug says:

      Please give examples of your claim and I will see what we can do to change that program.

        Pam Green says:

        Really? I’d be happy to, but who are you, General?

          Gen. krug says:

          Which minorities? The USA sadly has many. I am extremely interested to learn which minorities are being sanctioned by barbaric muslims.

          Pam Green says:

          You didn’t answer my question. In your first post to me, you wrote, “Please give examples…. and I will see what we can do to change that program”, implying that you have the authority to change something of this nature. This begs the question of who you are. Are you just some crazy with delusions of grandeur or are you speaking in a professional capacity and, if so, why would you not explain what that is? Furthermore, your comment that “the USA sadly has many (minorities)” is a very bizarre statement that I personally cannot sanction, nor would I expect anyone in America in a respectable position to talk that way. So, obviously, I am not the only Tablet reader who would, and should, be wary of communicating with you.

          Gen. krug says:

          Simple Question, Pam, who are the minorities that you speak of “throwing vast sums of money at American minorities”?

          Pam Green says:

          Simple question, right back at ya. If you’re not willing to answer my question, don’t waste my time.

          Gen. krug says:

          So you are a muslim supporter?

          Pam Green says:

          Ha ha ha ha ha. You’re pathetic.

          Gen. krug says:

          If you live in the USA, you are a parasite. If you live in Israel, you are treasonous.

          Pam Green says:

          You’re pathetic.

          Pam Green says:

          ANTI-SEMITIC TROLL ALERT!

          Here is what the anti-Semitic troll, “Gen. Krug”, posted on another site about me and about Tablet:

          Gen. krug • a day ago

          According to Pam Green from the ISRAELI ONLINE NEWS AGENCY called. “THE
          TABLET”, SHE SAID,”Islamists have been throwing vast sums of money at
          American minorities for decades. Obama is the fruit of all that
          investment.!” The name of the article was,”Obama Immediately Passes
          Israel Test”. This is how the Israeli mind works. After ALL America
          has done for these SO-CALLED people!

    Jacob Arnon says:

    Yevka quoteshate filled “mondo weiss” figures. Weiss praises every antisemite that comes down the pike.

    Yevka speaks of love but he hangs around with people full of hate.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he also quotes David Duke.

Gen. krug says:

@google-055e2462a15a9eebecf5bdcbd5929fee:disqus ——Simple Question, Pam, who are the minorities that you speak of “Islamists throwing vast sums of money at American minorities”? You are not understanding the seriousness of a comment you made.

    Pam Green says:

    Really? I don’t understand the seriousness of a comment I made? Is that a THREAT? Because I get my information from readily available sources, which you could easily find if you did a little research. Go to a library. Stop stalking me.

      Gen. krug says:

      Apparently, your sources are muslim? I do not listen to muslims. Even our minorities have more respect for life than a muslim. Once again, please share with us the MINORITIES that accept VAST sums of money in the USA?

        Pam Green says:

        BEWARE: ANTI-SEMITIC TROLL!

        BEWARE TABLET READERS, “Gen. Krug” used Disqus to STALK ME to another website, and this is the comment he posted on that site about me and about Tablet:

        Gen. krug • a day ago

        According to Pam Green from the ISRAELI ONLINE NEWS AGENCY called. “THE
        TABLET”, SHE SAID,”Islamists have been throwing vast sums of money at
        American minorities for decades. Obama is the fruit of all that
        investment.!” The name of the article was,”Obama Immediately Passes
        Israel Test”. This is how the Israeli mind works. After ALL America
        has done for these SO-CALLED people!

      Gen. krug says:

      Apparently, your sources are muslim? I do not listen to muslims. Even our minorities have more respect for life than a muslim. Once again, please share with us the MINORITIES that accept VAST sums of money in the USA?

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