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German President Not Pro-Israel Enough?

An interesting look at Germany’s dealings with the Jewish state

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Prime Minister Netanyahu and President Joachim Gauck last week.(Lior Mizrahi - Pool/Getty Images)

Haaretz foreign editor Adar Primor brings to light a fascinating controversy in Germany over statements President Joachim Gauck made on a recent trip to Israel. Various milquetoast-seeming statements of support for Israel, and of the importance for Germany of all countries to support Israel, were received warmly, if at all, by Israelis, but back home were roundly condemned—for not being supportive enough! Comparing his remarks to earlier ones by the German chancellor, Primor reports, “On that occasion, [Angela] Merkel said that Germany views its ‘historical responsibility for Israel’s security’ as a ‘raison d’etat,’ or supreme national interest. Gauck opted to express himself differently.”

The irony here (besides the German chancellor using a French phrase) is Germany just sold Israel submarines which Israel has deployed with nuclear weapons. Günter Grass aside, this is a pretty strong bilateral relationship.

Israelis Don’t Care About the New Germany [Haaretz]
Earlier: Günter Grass’ Stupid Poem About Israel and Iran

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yevka says:

 http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/german-nobel-laureate-guenter-grass-is-right-to-criticize-israel-a-826180.html

    I read about that and thought, ‘Geez, countries have the right to criticize each other…but can’t you find a friend of yours who *wasn’t* in the Waffen-SS’? 

yevka says:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18333423

Jacob Arnon says:

Yevka,  would link to an article critical of the Jewish state.

However Grass is not a realist as the article claims:

“Grass is neither an anti-Semite nor a zombie of German history. Grass is a realist. He decries the fact that Israel’s nuclear capabilities are “accessible to no inspections.” He objects to Germany’s weapons-export policies, which supports the shipment of an additional submarine capable of launching nuclear missiles to Israel. And he wearily rejects the “West’s hypocrisy,” which — he leaves unsaid — has long been the guiding principle of our Middle East policies, from Algeria to Afghanistan.”

Realists would take into account Iran’s threat to annihilate Israel with a nuclear bomb. Israel hasn’t threatened anyone with nuclear weapons. 

Realists would consider why the US invaded Afghanistan in the first place. 

A realist would own up to the fact that the allies liberated Germany from an Hezbollah type regime called Nazism.

Grass SS has never even come close to owning up to the truth.

He is not a realist, he is an anti-Israel fanatic. 

    yevka says:

     http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/09/rushdie-among-those-who-respond-to-israels-ban-of-gunter-grass/

    Oudtshoorn says:

    I agree with Jacob Arnon.   I cannot see an SS member, deeply indoctrinated as they were, and as they inevitably remain, living without being “anti” something that is Jewish.   So he’s chosen Israel as his target because he knows it’s unacceptable to say he still hates Jews.   Sickening.   Once in the SS, always and forever in the SS.

yevka says:

 http://forward.com/articles/157289/israel-arms-german-subs-with-nuclear-missiles/

yevka says:

 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/08/world/europe/08iht-letter08.html?_r=2

yevka says:

 http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2012/06/04/germany-sells-israel-nuclear-weapons-capable-submarines/

Agriensis Huliganthropus says:

Israel is the worse terrorist state the world has ever known.

Agriensis Huliganthropus says:

Iran has the right to make an atomic bomb.Israel wants to dominate the world. 
This terrorist Zionist state threatened Iran, Poland and Hungary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjWjQWyKJoY 

Silke Ilkes says:

Angela Merkel said Staatsräson and not raison d’etat – the former having been a German word albeit with foreign roots (quelle horreur) as long as I can read and listen. 

Silke says:

Angela Merkel said Staatsräson and not raison d’etat – the former having been a German word albeit with foreign roots (quelle horreur) as long as I can read and listen and in all likelihood a lot longer

and Wikipedia says that we use the word only since the 30-years-war – that is the one that ended with the peace of Westphalia in 1648 i.e. 17th century – French indeed, through and through ;-) especially since as best I know the French were not involved at least not prominently in that period of indiscriminate slaughter.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staatsräson#Einzelnachweise

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